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Dear (Friend),

I have stopped going to my usual church as I need to be saved. At the moment the Lord Jesus is helping me to repent from the heart from my whoredoms, fornications and adulteries that dishonoured Him and my husband Luther. That is why I was afflicted with demons of lust, adultery and fornication, that I might realise I was spiritually unclean, a sinner who needs Jesus’ salvation.

I have met no-one on the internet or in real life who is able to cast out demons in Jesus’ name (as per Acts 16:18 in the Bible), which is what needs to happen when I am saved. Otherwise my spiritual house will be empty, swept and garnished but other evil spirits will take up residence in me (Matthew 12:43-45). Pastor Frank and Miria at Faith Baptist Church in Fawkner could not do this either (as we should be able to do, from Mark 16:17-20) so I believe they may not be saved either, or that there is a huge problem with their faith. They do not believe that followers of Jesus should be able to have the power of God like this so they have some kind of faith but I suspect it is not saving faith.

It’s not just me, the church I went to also doesn’t believe in healing the sick as per Mark 16:17-20 (which also talks about other signs the truly saved in Jesus should have). They pray instead for doctors to be given wisdom to heal so have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof: from such turn away (2 Timothy 3:5).

Very few people are genuinely born again as very few seem to genuinely fully repent of their sins and believe the gospel (see Mark 1:15, that few are saved is in Luke 13:23-28).

True repentance unto life is a work of God (in the person of Jesus of Nazareth) in you, where you trust His Words in the Bible in general but in the New Testament particularly. Of critical importance is our heart’s response to Matthew 5-7, Christ’s sermon on the mount, where a repentant heart that is being given grace unto salvation will attempt to live this out. Christ even says that those who attempt to live out His sayings are “wise” and have built their house of faith upon a rock (Matthew 7:24-25). I believe that as we approach salvation we will be living out His commandments more and more, as we repent under His grace until He gives us final saving faith in Him. We should be seeking with all our heart, as He gives us grace and strength to do so, to obey Him (Acts 11:18).

We are commanded to repent and believe the gospel so repentance and salvation must be things under the sovereign control of Christ. I believe that true repentance, in the end, involves seeking Him with ALL your heart and being 100% honest before Him (and to those made in His image) by confessing and forsaking your sins (Matthew 3:6). The Lord will bring those sins to mind via His Holy Spirit so this can be done and is under His guidance. When we sin against others who are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27), we are really showing that we would be prepared to sin against Him. And that in fact we HAVE sinned against Him.

Only the Lord Jesus can grant us a fully repentant heart from our sins and forgive us, as there is no other name given under heaven by which we may be saved (Acts 4:12).

It may help here to reflect that David was not called “a man after mine own heart” (Acts 13:22) in God’s eyes for nothing. He sinned and repented fully from his heart each time before He was restored with God. I know that David was under the Old Covenant which is no longer in force but I believe what he did sets a pattern for us today. Otherwise why would Christ command us to REPENT and believe the gospel (Mark 1:15), as so many other scripture passages I have read do too (Acts 2:38, Matthew 3:2, Matthew 3:8, Matthew 3:11, Matthew 4:17, Matthew 9:13, Matthew 11:20, Matthew 11:21, Matthew 12:41, Matthew 21:29, Matthew 21:32, Mark 1:4, Mark 1:15, Mark 2:17, Mark 6:12, Luke 3:3, Luke 3:8, Luke 5:32, Luke 10:13, Luke 11:32, Luke 13:3, Luke 15:7, Luke 15:10, Luke 16:30, etc)? There are seven repentance Psalms in the Bible, seven being a number of completeness for God, Psalms 6, 32, 38, 51, 102, 130, 143. The mid-point of these Psalms, not coincidentally I believe, is Psalm 51. It shows the heart state of David when he was seeking salvation and was made truly repentant by God and before God. This should be our model, realising that when we repent it is Christ who is doing the works in us and leading us on. This is not works-based righteousness at all. As it is written:

“For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide even unto death.”
(Psalm 48:14)

Part of repentance is bringing forth fruits meet for repentance ie. Matthew 3:8, Luke 3:8, Luke 19:8. I agree that this is a very narrow path to tread, where one realises that even repentant faith is of the Lord (Acts 11:18) and He alone does the works in us. His will is sovereign so it must be that He guides us from repentant faith to a fully repentant, “honest and good heart” (Luke 8:15) that can receive His gospel safely. The Romans 10:9 conversion Pastor Frank spoke of is, in my view, easy believism which leads to shallow or rocky soil faith ie. to false converts.

Zaccheus in the Bible was moved by God to repent and He trusted God enough to obey. He was then given the grace to confess and forsake his sins by making up for them with right actions, before Christ saved Him (Luke 19:1-10). He started off with a mustard seed of faith (Matthew 17:20-21), which is all Jesus requires of us at the beginning of repentance. He then leads us through repentance safely to final saving faith in Him (where we believe the gospel, in the Chick tract I sent you, with all our heart).

I am currently building on the mustard seed of repentant faith I have been given by doing the following under His guidance:

  • fasting (this draws you closer to God as per Psalm 35:13)
  • praying the Psalms of repentance (Psalms 6, 32, 38, 51, 102, 130, 143)
  • seeking to live out Christ’s commandments from the heart in Matthew 5-7 and Luke 24:46-47 (also Matthew 28:18-20, where Christ commands us to make disciples). I am aware as I do this that it is Christ who is doing the work in me to build my repentant faith, I can do no more than listen to His voice in His Word (the Bible) and trust and obey. To increase my awareness of this, and overcome the temptation to give up fasting due to weakness (or to stand in my own non-existent righteousness), I keep repeating, “I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.” (Philippians 4:13). I am praying also for a soft, fully repentant heart to be developed in me ASAP (not knowing how long this will take as the Lord alone knows), that I may fully believe Jesus’ gospel and have repentant faith converted to saving faith.

Christ commands people in Revelation 3:19 to be “zealous” and repent. Being zealous means being willing to expend sincere, going-the-extra-mile effort when He moves your mind and conscience to act on His commandments. I believe you must strive to dedicate 100% of your heart to following Him as He leads (though He is merciful and makes us zealous in accordance with where we are at spiritually at the time He calls us), and He will encourage you greatly along the way. He does this because He loves you dearly and wants you to be in heaven with Him.

A word on fasting:

When you try a liquids-only fast (fruit/vegetable juice replacing meals, with as much water as you like in between) you will probably feel uncomfortable and hungry for the first 2-3 days. Interestingly, this passes as your body gets used to it and you will find you can fast indefinitely. Another sign of mercy from God, who had both Jesus and Moses fast supernaturally (no food or water for 40 days and 40 nights), sustaining them both by His power (see Exodus 34:28 and Matthew 4:1-2).

Fasting must be done with the right heart motive, to seek God with everything you have, including sacrificing your need for pleasant food to feed your flesh. If you feel lead to during the fast, you can convert a minor fast into a supernatural one.

I believe if someone is unsaved, as I am, fasting should be done until you know without a shadow of a doubt that you are saved (ie. you have the new heart and spirit promised in Ezekiel 11:19 and 36:26. You may never get another chance to repent and avoid hell. I believe with all my heart that if God commands us to seek Him with all our heart (100% of it, as per Jeremiah 29:13), He will protect and enable us while we fast for Him, for as long as is needed until we are saved.

More tips on Biblical fasting can be found here: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/fasting-in-the-bible-10-examples-to-learn-from/

A word on the truly born again or saved person:

I believe it is rare to meet a truly born again person with the true fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) and the signs promised in Mark 16:17-20. The Lord confirms His Word with His character (fruits of the Spirit) and His power (he gives grace to the humble or genuinely repentant as per James 4:6-8).

I am not born again either but will cooperate by His grace with the Lord Jesus leading me to repentance. Then I can pray from an honest heart that was made repentant by Christ (Matthew 17:20-21), which is all Jesus requires of us at the beginning of repentance, to lead us through this safely to final saving faith in Him (where we believe the gospel, in the tract I sent you, with all our heart, converting our souls (Psalm 19:7, Isaiah 44:20)). Jesus will then give me the new heart and spirit promised in Ezekiel 11:19 and 36:26. Then begins a life-long process of sanctification or walking with the Lord more intimately, where we aim to be as close as possible to loving God with everything we’ve got and our neighbours as ourselves (Matthew 22:37-40) as “perfect love casteth out fear.” (1 John 4:18).

Please look into your Bible with an open mind and heart to confirm the truth of what I’m saying. For example, John 3:16 means to go to chapter 3 in the Book of John, then look up verse 16. It reads:
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

A word on the full gospel (as given in the Chick tract I have included here):

Repent and believe that Jesus took your just condemnation for your sins on the cross, that He died in place of you willingly for your sins. He did this out of obedient love to the Father, and also had a great and abiding love for those made in His image who were fallen due to sin, us. It is written that “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” (John 15:13). Jesus follows this up by emphasizing we are to have complete trust in His Words (and therefore complete obedience to them), particularly in the New Testament: “Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.”

All of the Bible’s Words are the Word of God, which is Jesus Himself, so all can be trusted completely and followed (John 1:1). Jesus communicates to us by His Word, via the Holy Spirit of Truth (2 Peter 1:21). The Spirit of Truth brings Jesus’ words to life to our mind, heart and soul, allowing us to feed on Him spiritually and stay humble and trusting (John 15:7, John 6:50-64). We need to feed on Him daily, and zealously, living out His Word as much as possible in our lives.

Jesus saves us from the just penalty of our sins which is hell then eternity in the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). If you are afraid at any time that you will die and go to hell, as I was recently, open up your Bible and go to the gospel of John 3:14-21. Read with an open mind and heart to Jesus’ Spirit of Truth, which works through His words. Ask Jesus of Nazareth to have mercy on you that you might confess and forsake your sins utterly before Him and others you have hurt (repent) and that He leads you to be born again as per John 3.

All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23-26) so all are under His just condemnation. No-one knows how long they have left to live, I want you to be delivered from hell and rest safely in Jesus.

I have been doing better lately, having received grace after grace while repenting. I must keep persevering in repentant faith until Jesus makes it saving faith, by His leading and grace alone.

Final word on having a repentant heart:

A fully repentant heart is the “good and honest” heart described in Luke 8:5-15. It is the ONLY good ground in which the “seed” (the Word of God, or Jesus’ gospel of salvation – see the Chick tract) may be sown. All other types of heart lead to false conversions (or no conversion at all), as I have had many times during my life. I want to save you the agony of going through a false conversion, where grace from the Lord gradually departs and you are left with the same hard, wicked old heart as described in Jeremiah 17:9. This heart will not get you Jesus and heaven but rather condemnation in hell and the lake of fire, as it is not a fully converted, born-again heart (Matthew 13:15, Isaiah 6:10, Acts 28:27).

I believe one of the most important passages in scripture is the following, as the heart is the gateway to the soul:

“Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.”
(Proverbs 4:23)

May the Lord Jesus bless you with salvation.

Naomi Chapman

Revelation 12:11
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

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  1. Naomi, thanks for following my blog! I hope that my articles are an encouragement to you as you continue to read them. All the best to you as you serve the Lord.

  2. Hi,
    I am also dedicated to following the Son of God, Jesus Christ the Jewish Messiah. I’ve been following him for 21 years, and I’m a graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary.

    However, I have had a growing realization for years, especially in the past year, that most Evangelical Bible-believing Christians really are not following Jesus. Rather, they are following Paul, but they are blind to this, will not admit it, and will not discuss it rationally.

    For example, here below is a comparison of the words of Jesus and the words of Paul regarding the First and Greatest Most Important Commandment. They don’t agree.

    “Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: ‘Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?’”

    Jesus replied: “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these TWO commandments.” [Matthew 22:36-40, Deuteronomy 6:5, Leviticus 19:18]

    And another time,
    “One of the teachers of the law… asked him,
    ‘Of all the commandments, which is the most important?’

    “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “ is this: ‘Hear, of Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than THESE.” [Mark 12:28-31, Deuteronomy 6:4-5, Leviticus 19:18]

    But in contrast with Jesus, Paul the Pharisee didn’t know the greatest, most important, first commandment according to Jesus. Paul made up his own rule. Paul wrote:
    “The entire law is summed up in a SINGLE command: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’” [Galatians 5:14, Leviticus 19:18]

    And again, Paul wrote:
    “He who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, “Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not covet, and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this ONE RULE: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.” [Romans 13:8-10, Leviticus 19:18]

    Jesus said it’s TWO commandments, with the greatest, most important, first command to 1) first, love God with everything you’ve got, and 2) second, love people.
    Paul said no, it ONE commandment- to love people.

    No they don’t “harmonize.” It is a clear contradiction. Maybe it would help to read these passages of Scripture out loud.
    I’m following Jesus, not Paul. It’s not the same thing. It’s a demonic stronghold in the Evangelical church, that people would rather end a conversation, or even a long-term relationship, rather than admit “Paul was wrong” about ANYTHIING.

    • Hi Matthew,

      First of all, thank you for writing to me with such a detailed response. It’s funny, I was in an almost identical position to you several years ago when I ran across the writings of Tim Spiess from Jesus’ Families. Tim also mistrusts Paul’s writings. He perhaps goes one step further than you in that he rejects as inspired any writings in the bible except the words Jesus actually spoke in the Gospels. One thing I have to say to you is this: take care. My interest in Jesus’ Families lead not to a fruitful Christian walk but rather to pain, disillusionment, and apostasy. I’ve written about it on this site:

      https://aeon01.wordpress.com/2013/06/18/tim-spiess-from-jesus-families-false-prophet/

      I’d next like to talk about Paul vs Jesus, as you’ve kindly raised the question. Only when we grasp the gospel as the saving story about Jesus that completes Israel’s story do we see the profound unity between Jesus and Paul. Both “gospeled” the same gospel because both told the story of Jesus. I found the following article helpful in outlining this truth but you need to subscribe to read it, unfortunately:

      http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/december/9.25.html

      I hope the editors forgive me for quoting from it in my comment here. Nothing could be more important than knowing the truth about God and about whether or not we can rely on His words, as given to us in both the Old and New Testaments. It was too important for me not to write this stuff down for you. The question is, can we trust that the Bible is error and contradiction free? Can we trust that God is not cruel, that He hasn’t made life difficult for us by allowing providence to include the writings of false apostles as well as true ones? I believe we can. As it is written:

      Psalm 12:6
      The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

      Now for more on the article. The problem with the two approaches—trying to make Paul fit Jesus’ kingdom vision, or trying to make Jesus fit Paul’s justification vision—comes down to this: each approach reduces the word gospel. For one group, it is equated with the kingdom. For the other, it is a synonym for justification by faith. To be sure, the word gospel encapsulates both kingdom and justification, but gospel operates on a foundation deeper than either. If we can grasp that, the supposed disjunction between Jesus and Paul disappears.

      So where do we begin to get a New Testament understanding of “the gospel”? With Paul! Not with Romans 3 or Romans 5, however, but with 1 Corinthians 15:1-8. A number of observations are in order.

      First, this is the gospel handed on to Paul (v. 3), which suggests it was the gospel the earliest apostles preached.

      Second, the gospel saves people from their sins (v. 2-3).

      Third, the essence of the gospel is the story of Jesus (vv. 3-8) as the completion of Israel’s story (v. 3). Both the word Christ (Messiah) and the phrase “according to the Scriptures” are central to how the apostles understood the word gospel.

      Fourth, there’s not a word here about either kingdom or justification! Sure, you can probe “for our sins” until both themes bubble up to the surface, but we should at least let Paul be Paul when it comes to defining the gospel. Added together, it means this: The gospel is first and foremost about Jesus. Or, to put it theologically, it’s about Christology. Behind or underneath both kingdom and justification is the gospel, and the gospel is the saving story of Jesus that completes Israel’s story. “To gospel” is to tell a story about Jesus as the Messiah, as the Lord, as the Son of God, as the Savior. Thus, the question of whether the gospel of Jesus and the gospel of Paul are the same is radically reshaped. The question is not, “Does Paul preach the kingdom?” Nor is the question, “Does Jesus preach justification?”

      Or if, like Piper, we ask if Jesus preached Paul’s gospel, then we are really asking, “Does Jesus preach Jesus?” Or, “What was Jesus’ teaching about Jesus?” Or, “Does he preach himself as the completion of Israel’s story?” Or, “Does Jesus preach his own life, death, burial, and resurrection?” The entire New Testament comes together by answering all these questions. And the answer is Yes, Jesus preached himself as the completion of Israel’s story. Jesus preached the gospel (of Paul, of Peter, of John) because Jesus preached himself. Any reading of the Gospels, and any Gospel will do, leads constantly to this question that Jesus himself asked those who saw him and heard him: “Who am I?”

      So what did Jesus think of Jesus? Let’s start with Jesus’ teaching about the kingdom. His inaugural sermon in his hometown synagogue, at Nazareth, is a profoundly and properly egocentric statement about himself. We miss the essence of this passage if we reduce the story to kingdom only. Jesus reads from Isaiah 61:1-2, a passage about end-time kingdom redemption. But what we need to note is that Jesus thinks he is the agent of that redemption, that he is none other than the “anointed” one.

      Another key kingdom text is Luke 7:20-23. John the Baptist asks whether or not Jesus is the “one who was to come.” Jesus answers by creating a clever and beautiful mosaic from Isaiah (29:18-19; 35:5-6; 61:1). The last line is arresting in its bold claim: “Blessed is the man who does not fall away on account of me” (emphasis mine). In other words, Jesus claims that he fulfills those Scriptures. “The story of Israel,” Jesus is saying, “comes to its completion in me.” Again, the message of Jesus is thoroughly egocentric.

      There is something here that courses through the pages of the Gospels: Jesus and John see themselves as the ones who complete Israel’s story, and their story is the saving story. (video) This is exactly what Paul said the gospel was. Jesus may have spoken of kingdom, and Paul may have spoken of justification, but underneath both kingdom and justification is Christology: It is the story about Jesus, who is Messiah and Lord and who brings the kingdom and justifies sinners by faith.

      Excuse me for piling on here, but only when we grasp the gospel as the saving story about Jesus that completes Israel’s story do we see the profound unity between Jesus and Paul. Both “gospeled” the same gospel because both told the story of Jesus.

      For example, what kind of person says this: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them” (Matt. 5:17)? Jesus overtly declares that the entire Law and Prophets point to him and are fulfilled in him, which is to “gospel” exactly as does Paul, who says it this way: “according to the Scriptures.”

      What kind of person chooses the symbolic number twelve, which connects to the formation of Israel as a twelve-tribe people and also to the hope for the revival of the ten lost tribes? But there’s more: Jesus does not include himself because he perceives himself to be the Lord of the Twelve. Jesus, by appointing twelve, saw history coming to completion and saw himself as Lord of that completion. That is gospeling! And it’s the gospel of all the apostles.

      What kind of person predicts more than once that he will not only die but also rise, as Jesus does in Mark 9:31?

      What kind of person sums up his life as the Son of Man who came to give his life as a ransom for many, but does so in ways that combine Daniel 7’s Son of Man vision with Isaiah 42-53’s servant image? That is what we find when we combine Mark 10:45 with Mark 14:24.

      What kind of person sees himself as the Passover, as Jesus does at the Last Supper? Here Jesus synthesizes profound images, makes sense of his own life through those images, and declares that he himself is the redeeming, forgiving agent for Israel. Again, we are right where Paul was in 1 Corinthians 15, when he said Jesus died “for our sins.” This is Paul’s gospel in the words and actions of Jesus.

      My contention, then, is simple: If we begin with kingdom, we have to twist Paul into shape to fit a kingdom vision. If we begin with justification, we have to twist Jesus into shape to fit justification. But if we begin with gospel, and if we understand gospel as Paul does in 1 Corinthians 15:1-11, then we will find what unifies Jesus and Paul—that both witness to Jesus as the center of God’s story. The gospel is the core of the Bible, and the gospel is the story of Jesus. (video) Every time we talk about Jesus, we are gospeling. Telling others about Jesus leads to both the kingdom and justification—but only if we begin with Jesus.

      ———————–

      I hope this helped you. Matthew, a few more points that may help to harmonise Paul and Jesus. If we put Paul in context in Galations 5:14, he is talking about Christians serving one another (see verse 13) in Christ (see verse 6). He views neighbourly love as indivisible from honouring Christ (or being “in Christ”).

      Again, if we put Romans 13:8-10 in context we see Paul is talking about submitting to rulers as though they are the authority of God (see verse 6). So although he focusses on neighbourly love again, he is doing this in harmony with the need to worship God, the two are indivisible in his mind.

      Again, I hope this helps.

      Kind regards in Christ,
      Naomi

    • There is no contradiction Matthew in what Jesus and Paul said, Jesus was affirming that Loving God means we will Love our neighbor too and Paul was saying the same, to say we Love God but hate others for whatever reason, means we do not Love God, as we can see confirmed in the Scriptures below, we are to be in Unity and this means in agreement and not divided by fleshy man’s or woman’s understanding.

      1John 4 :20 -21 If a man say, I Love God, and hateth his brother/sister, he is a liar: for he that Loveth not his brother/sister whom he hath seen, how can he Love God whom he/she hath not seen? And this Commandment have we from Him, That he who Loveth God Love his brother/sister also.

      1 John 4:11-13 Beloved, if God so Loved us we ought also to Love one another. No man hath seen God at any time if we Love one another God dwelleth in us and His Love is Perfected in us. Hereby know we that we dwell in Him and He in us because He hath given us of His Spirit.(KJV)

      John 13:34-35, A new Commandment I give unto you, That ye Love one another; as I have Loved you, that ye also Love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my Disciples, if ye have Love one to another.

      Philippians 2:1-6 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of Love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies, Fulfill ye my joy, that ye be like-minded, having the same Love, being of one accord, of one mind. Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves. Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

      1 Corinthians 1: 10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

      Philippians 3:14-16 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Nevertheless, where to we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.

      1 John 3:16-18 By this we know Love, because He laid down His life for us. And we also ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. But whoever has this world’s goods, and sees his brother in need, and shuts up his heart from him, how does the Love of God abide in Him? My little children, let us not Love in word or in tongue, but in deed and in Truth. ( N.K.J.V)

      1 John 4:6-8 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the Spirit of Truth, and the spirit of error. Beloved, let us Love one another for Love is of God and every one that Loveth is Born of God, and knoweth God. He that Loveth not knoweth not God; for God is Love.(KJV)

      1 Peter 3:7-9 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, Love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous.

      2 Corinthians 13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in Peace; and the God of Love and Peace shall be with you.

      Christian Love in Christ Jesus – Anne.

  3. Hi Naomi
    You certainly have spent a lot to time on this topic, and I appreciate your response. It appears that you have the common Evangelical perspective that The Bible is “One Book” which all “harmonizes” and is all equally authoritative and important and one unified “voice of God.”

    What Biblical basis is there for this “traditional” view? Only one, really. Paul wrote once, buried in the middle of a personal letter, “All Scripture is God-breathed.” But no one else ever said that, and even Paul didn’t say that all Scripture was equal. (The Apostle Peter wrote of PROPHECY of Scripture, not “All Scripture.”)

    Jesus clearly saw the Scriptures of his day, what we call the Old Testament, in 3 distinct categories, in order of priority.

    Here is a relevant quote from John Paul Jackson, from the following video.

    “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God….” [John 1:1]
    that just doesn’t mean the New Testament. Because guess what, when He came and John wrote it the New Testament didn’t exist. He was talking about the word of God, EXPRESSLY THE TORAH. In the beginning was the Torah. And you go whoa; now you’re getting heavy. That should not be heavy to us. That should not be heavy to us. That should be one of those: “of course.” But we take one step at a time.”

    John Paul Jackson – 2/28/2009 Rend The Heavens Conference
    Charlotte NC Mahesh Chavda Ministries


    or
    http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=John+Paul+Jackson+YouTube&Form=VQFRVP#view=detail&mid=E4E465431ECB131A2CFAE4E465431ECB131A2CFA

    How would Jesus prioritize “The Books” – the 66 books of what we call “The Bible?”

    Even if you believe that “all Scripture is God-breathed”, Jesus clearly told us that all Scripture is NOT equally authoritative or important. When asked, Jesus summed things up in not 1 but rather 2 commandments, based on only 2 out of the 3 accepted sections of the Hebrew Scriptures- the Law and the Prophets. He didn’t mention the Writings at that time. Then in Luke 24:44 Jesus spoke of “The Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

    I’m not Moses writing tablets of stone. But below is my rough idea of how I think Jesus would prioritize “The Books.” I’m not questioning the content of the texts. But one way or another, the choice of which order to arrange the content of the 66 books in is a matter of human tradition, and there are multiple traditions.

    If you think what we call the “New Testament” has to be in the order of (1) Gospels, (2) Acts, then (3) Paul front and center, you should talk with the Russian Orthodox Church.

    And if you think the order of the books in the King James Version of what we call the “Old Testament” is the only authorized order, you should talk with the Jews. (You also might want to change the name of your Bible to “King Jacob.”)

    But you probably would also need to remind modern Jews that Samuel, Kings, and Chronicles were all originally stand-alone scrolls, not part 1 & part 2.

    I’m not saying, “Thus says the Lord” here. But based on what I know right now of the Jesus of the Bible, and the Bible text itself, here is my best guess at how Jesus would order the priority of “The Books.”

    .1) The Word made flesh- 4 Gospels – Matthew, Mark, Luke, John

    .2) Torah – The Law of Moses – Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy

    .3) The Prophecy – Acts, Revelation

    .4) The Prophets – Joshua, Judges, Samuel, Kings, Major Prophets, Minor Prophets

    .5) Psalms

    .6) General letters: of the Apostles I & 2 Peter, 1 John

    .7) General letters: to the Hebrews, and from James (aka Jacob)

    .8) Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Job, Ruth, Esther and the other Writings

    .9) Personal letters: of The Apostle John, Jude, and Paul

  4. Thanks for the follow. Frankly, I have some followers who do so for financial (?!) reasons, apparently, and some with whom I feel I have some major theological differences, but I certainly don’t see that in your case. Thank you for your thoughtful faith and obedience to our Lord. May you be blessed abundantly in it!

  5. Matthew and Naomi, I live in Melbourne.AUST. I’ve found your blog Naomi as a result of sussing out Tim’s Jesus Families page as it caused me much distress (as you can imagine).

    Matthew, I’ve come to the same conclusion as you and I’m now taking a huge step back from “Evangelical Christianity” and am combing through the Gospels again, prayerfully. I’m asking God to guide me in His truth and help me be a True Disciple of Jesus Christ.

    If I’m honest, I’d been doing what many do… heaping up teachers and getting my doctrine correct. I now realise that I wasn’t praying to God or truly seeking to imitate my Christ.

    Pray for me please. That God would help my husband and I.

    I appreciate your blog as whilst I haven’t read much of it, no doubt it’ll be an interesting read.

    Because of Calvary.

    • Hi Beholdason,

      A warm welcome to this blog. I will surely pray for God to help you and your husband.

      Thanks for your kind encouragement re. reading my blog. It means a lot when you find like-minded people on the Net.

      May God bless you.
      Naomi

    • Thank you Anne, I’m looking forward to reading more of your articles. We can encourage one another in the Lord. God bless you and thanks for your thoughtful (and scriptural) comments in answer to Matthew. Much appreciated.

  6. Praise God for His deliverance of you from that evil influence and that demonic oppression. When I was in high school I got interested in witchcraft and even met with a supposed “white witch”. The interesting thing is my interest in witchcraft brought opportunities out of the woodwork. Now, understand, I wasn’t a believer at the time. When it came time to make a decision, I told the friend who had introduced me to the witch, “If Jesus Christ is real then He wouldn’t want me to do this.” After saying that all those opportunities disappeared and I had no more desire whatsoever to get involved with witchcraft. There is power in the name of Jesus Christ. He is all powerful and I praise Him for delivering me when I didn’t even know Him. God bless you:)

    • Wow, that is an amazing testimony Eliza, thanks for sharing. I’m sure others will find it inspiring too.

      Praise God He looked after you and brought you safely into His fold.

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