The Believer’s Relationship to the Mosaic Covenant

At the Blue Letter Bible, we consistently receive questions on tithing, on which, if any, of the often “strange” Levitical laws (e.g., Do not weave two kinds of fabric together) apply to the believer today, on when to celebrate Old Testament feast days, et cetera. These are all questions borne out of an inadequate understanding of the agreement made between God and Moses on Mount Sinai.

Properly understanding the covenants and their importance seems to be one of the most eluding pieces of theology for the modern believer. The Mosaic Covenant was directed specifically toward the nation of Israel and was concerned in its chiefest aspect with Israel’s inheritance of and blessing in the land of Canaan—the Promised Land. The laws that attended this covenant, while revealing God’s desire for this nation to be set apart from all others as an example, do not necessarily give us any perfect basis for understanding morality. This may seem to be a strange statement. But we ask you to consider the following points.

Much of the time when people discuss the “Law,” they are thinking primarily of the Decalogue (the Ten Commandments). However, the Law, (i.e., the Mosaic Covenant) contained several hundreds of commandments. Many of which today are not even possible to follow, due to the lack of a Jewish Temple. Yet, biblical morality is not affected by this situation. In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus seemingly expanded the understanding of the Ten Commandments. Rather than just stating that we should not murder, He told us that if we called our brother a “fool,” it was the same as committing murder. So the Ten Commandments were not all encompassing as to morality.

The real question then presents itself, “What responsibility does the believer owe to the Mosaic Covenant?”

While the law is good (1 Tim 1:8), it is unable to justify (Gal 2:16). Under the “New Covenant,” Christ is our fulfillment of the law (Mat 5:17). Therefore, as to the question of what responsibility does the New Covenant believer owe to the Mosaic Covenant, the answer is “nothing” for the purposes of salvation (Gal 3:1-3). Some of the standards iterated from God through Moses upon Sinai were directed at the nation of Israel simply as the terms of a contract for possession of a certain portion of land. Deuteronomy 28 makes clear the stipulations of this covenant; essentially God would bless Israel for obedience by granting great prosperity in the land but curse Israel for its disobedience with all manner of catastrophe culminating in the loss of Canaan. Despite God’s long-suffering, Israel fails to uphold her portion of the covenant and reaps the curses God promised — climaxing in the Babylonian capture in the Seventh Century B.C.

The Law (both the covenantal and the universal, Ten Commandment aspects of it) now serves to lead mankind to understand his corruption. Just as Israel, a nation born of the fruit of God’s own grace, could not stand under the righteous requirements of the Mosaic Law, neither can any man stand under the condemnation of God’s universal requirement—absolute obedience of mind and action. Paul speaks of the Law as one who leads us step by step to grace, for it points out our dire need of such (cf. Galatians 3:23ff). And having taken hold of grace by faith, the believer no longer heeds the condemning beckon of the Law (cf. Romans). So then, is there any reason to look to the Levitical laws for ethical guidance unto righteousness? No — for their service now is to guide men to Christ (Galatians 3:24).

What then? Is this freedom merely for the believing Gentile? Or does the believer of Jewish decent likewise bear this liberty? As certainly as the Jewish believer holds to Christ is his freedom from the Mosaic Law assured. The chief redemptive aspect of the Mosaic Covenant has been fulfilled by Christ. The blood of bulls and goats is useless and perfectly replaced by the sacrifice of the one Son of God Himself; to return to the Mosaic Law is to deny the sacrifice of Christ. This was the impetus driving the apostles as they stood against the Judaizers (those who were requiring believers in Christ to bear up under the Mosaic Law) proclaiming, “Beware the dogs, the evildoers, the mutilation.”

Where then do we find our Christian ethic? Quite simply, in Christ’s words: “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength and you shall love your neighbor as yourself” (Mark 12:30-31). If we follow Christ’s command, we cannot break any aspect of the Ten Commandments, nor any aspect of God’s morality. And we find extrapolation of these ultimate commands in all the writings of the New Testament authors. That is our ethic—and it is borne by our faith in and love for Christ rather than from our fear of breaking the law.

This post was taken from: https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/mosaic_cov.cfm

I trust you found it edifying.

7 suggestions when God is silent

Elijah had been used of God to hold back rain from the people for over three years, because of their sins. Obviously, he was not well liked as a preacher. I can imagine the stress he experienced during those years.

Something strikes me, however, that seems to further complicate Elijah’s situation.

Consider 1 Kings 18:1:

“And it came to pass after many days, the word of the LORD came to Elijah in the third year, saying: Go, shew thyself unto Ahab, and I will send rain upon the earth.”

According to a couple New Testament passages, this “After many days” was actually three and a half years. The famine was three and a half years long. For three and a half years, the people apparently continued to sin, Elijah continued to hold on by faith, but God said nothing. God was apparently inactive…not speaking…even to His great servant Elijah during this time.

Have you ever been there? Has the silence of God in your life ever been eerily strong?

Imagine you had been faithfully serving… God is using you…you are in constant communication with Him…and then suddenly…everything is quiet. You have to wait.

The separation must have seemed unbearable. Elijah is not liked and unpopular. He’s an outcast from the people and the One he trusted most was seemingly absent.

God would soon do a miracle through Elijah…one he couldn’t even imagine…certainly not script, but during this period all Elijah could do was wait.

If you have been a follower of Christ for more than a little time, you have had periods where it seems God is nowhere to be found. We often call them periods of spiritual dryness. Sometimes I refer to it as being in a spiritual funk.

What should we do during the times of silence, before the miracles of God come through for us?

If you are like me, you can figure out how to celebrate a miracle. You don’t need much help doing that. The tough part of life is figuring out what to do during the years of silence… during the years when miracles are seemingly nowhere to be found.

What do we do during the spiritually dry periods of life when we don’t hear clearly the voice of God?

Here are 7 suggestions for those times:

  1. Don’t ignore the silence – Some of the biggest moves God has made in my life have come after a period of spiritual dryness… when it seemed like God was doing nothing in my life. Stay very close to God and watch for Him to eventually display His power. He will in the fullness of time.
  2. Confront known sin in your life – This wasn’t the problem of silence for Elijah, but the problem for the Israelites was that they were chasing after other gods and living lives in total disobedience to God. Sin may not be the reason you don’t sense closeness to God right now, but if you have known sin in your life it will affect your intimacy with God.
  3. Go back to what you know – Get back to the basics of the faith that saved you. You’ll do it 100s of times in your life, but you must remind yourselves of the basis of faith…which is the very character and promises of God. God is in control. He really is… even when it doesn’t seem that He is anywhere to be found.
  4. Make a decision…Choose sides – You can’t adequately serve God and the world. (Consider Joshua 24:15). Something happens in life, often sin, busyness, boredom, or a tragedy…but if we are normal, we have periods where we grow away from our close relationship with God. God hasn’t moved, but if you’ve shifted in your obedience, get back securely on the right side.
  5. Trust More…Not less – Times of silence may be filled with fear, but ironically, these times require more faith. Times come in our spiritual life when our enthusiasm isn’t as real as when we began our walk with God. That’s not an indication to quit… it may be that God is using that time for something bigger than you could have imagined… but whatever is next will most likely require a deeper level of trust.
  6. Listen and Watch Closely – Some day God is going to make His plans known to you. Don’t miss them. He may come to your personally, through His Word, circumstances, or another person. You’ll need to be in a position to know that God is moving. (Read THIS POST if you need help discerning God’s will.)
  7. Get ready to receive – God will break the silence some day… and when He does it WILL be good. If you mope around in your sorrows, you’ll be less prepared to receive the good things to come. Not because of your circumstances, but because of your faith, clothe yourself in joy as you wait for God to bless you after the period of silence.

Are you in one of those periods of silence today? How do you handle these periods of time?

Ron Edmondson authored this article. He pastors Immanuel Baptist Church. Find out more at: http://www.ronedmondson.com/about

Hymn of the day – O thou who camest from above

O thou who camest from above
the fire celestial to impart,
kindle a flame of sacred love
on the mean altar of my heart.

There let it for thy glory burn
with inextinguishable blaze,
and trembling to its source return
in humble prayer and fervent praise.

Jesus, confirm my heart’s desire
to work and speak and think for thee;
still let me guard the holy fire
and still stir up thy gift in me.

Still let me prove thy perfect will,
my acts of faith and love repeat,
till death thy endless mercies seal,
and make my sacrifice complete.

Words by Charles Wesley, 1762

The Rochester Choir performs this song here, for your listening pleasure:

I stopped going to church as I needed to be saved

Here is an email I sent to two of my friends in Christ – I have edited this slightly with some new Scriptural passages and insights that the Lord brought to mind:

Dear Ana & Prunes,

I wanted to witness the gospel to some of my unsaved neighbours, including King James Bibles with what I’ve written. Do you mind having a read of the following, to see if it is merciful enough and is doctrinally ok?

Here it is:

Dear (Friend),

I have stopped going to my usual church as I need to be saved. At the moment the Lord Jesus is helping me to repent from the heart from my whoredoms, fornications and adulteries that dishonoured Him and my husband Luther. That is why I was afflicted with demons of lust, adultery and fornication, that I might realise I was spiritually unclean, a sinner who needs Jesus’ salvation.

I have met no-one on the internet or in real life who is able to cast out demons in Jesus’ name (as per Acts 16:18 in the Bible), which is what needs to happen when I am saved. Otherwise my spiritual house will be empty, swept and garnished but other evil spirits will take up residence in me (Matthew 12:43-45). Pastor Frank and Miria at Faith Baptist Church in Fawkner could not do this either (as we should be able to do, from Mark 16:17-20) so I believe they may not be saved either, or that there is a huge problem with their faith. They do not believe that followers of Jesus should be able to have the power of God like this so they have some kind of faith but I suspect it is not saving faith.

It’s not just me, the church I went to also doesn’t believe in healing the sick as per Mark 16:17-20 (which also talks about other signs the truly saved in Jesus should have). They pray instead for doctors to be given wisdom to heal so have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof: from such turn away (2 Timothy 3:5).

Very few people are genuinely born again as very few seem to genuinely fully repent of their sins and believe the gospel (see Mark 1:15, that few are saved is in Luke 13:23-28).

True repentance unto life is a work of God (in the person of Jesus of Nazareth) in you, where you trust His Words in the Bible in general but in the New Testament particularly. Of critical importance is our heart’s response to Matthew 5-7, Christ’s sermon on the mount, where a repentant heart that is being given grace unto salvation will attempt to live this out. Christ even says that those who attempt to live out His sayings are “wise” and have built their house of faith upon a rock (Matthew 7:24-25). I believe that as we approach salvation we will be living out His commandments more and more, as we repent under His grace until He gives us final saving faith in Him. We should be seeking with all our heart, as He gives us grace and strength to do so, to obey Him (Acts 11:18).

We are commanded to repent and believe the gospel so repentance and salvation must be things under the sovereign control of Christ. I believe that true repentance, in the end, involves seeking Him with ALL your heart and being 100% honest before Him (and to those made in His image) by confessing and forsaking your sins (Matthew 3:6). The Lord will bring those sins to mind via His Holy Spirit so this can be done and is under His guidance. When we sin against others who are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27), we are really showing that we would be prepared to sin against Him. And that in fact we HAVE sinned against Him.

Only the Lord Jesus can grant us a fully repentant heart from our sins and forgive us, as there is no other name given under heaven by which we may be saved (Acts 4:12).

It may help here to reflect that David was not called “a man after mine own heart” (Acts 13:22) in God’s eyes for nothing. He sinned and repented fully from his heart each time before He was restored with God. I know that David was under the Old Covenant which is no longer in force but I believe what he did sets a pattern for us today. Otherwise why would Christ command us to REPENT and believe the gospel (Mark 1:15), as so many other scripture passages I have read do too (Acts 2:38, Matthew 3:2, Matthew 3:8, Matthew 3:11, Matthew 4:17, Matthew 9:13, Matthew 11:20, Matthew 11:21, Matthew 12:41, Matthew 21:29, Matthew 21:32, Mark 1:4, Mark 1:15, Mark 2:17, Mark 6:12, Luke 3:3, Luke 3:8, Luke 5:32, Luke 10:13, Luke 11:32, Luke 13:3, Luke 15:7, Luke 15:10, Luke 16:30, etc)? There are seven repentance Psalms in the Bible, seven being a number of completeness for God, Psalms 6, 32, 38, 51, 102, 130, 143. The mid-point of these Psalms, not coincidentally I believe, is Psalm 51. It shows the heart state of David when he was seeking salvation and was made truly repentant by God and before God. This should be our model, realising that when we repent it is Christ who is doing the works in us and leading us on. This is not works-based righteousness at all. As it is written:

“For this God is our God for ever and ever: he will be our guide even unto death.”
(Psalm 48:14)

Part of repentance is bringing forth fruits meet for repentance ie. Matthew 3:8, Luke 3:8, Luke 19:8. I agree that this is a very narrow path to tread, where one realises that even repentant faith is of the Lord (Acts 11:18) and He alone does the works in us. His will is sovereign so it must be that He guides us from repentant faith to a fully repentant, “honest and good heart” (Luke 8:15) that can receive His gospel safely. The Romans 10:9 conversion Pastor Frank spoke of is, in my view, easy believism which leads to shallow or rocky soil faith ie. to false converts.

Zaccheus in the Bible was moved by God to repent and He trusted God enough to obey. He was then given the grace to confess and forsake his sins by making up for them with right actions, before Christ saved Him (Luke 19:1-10). He started off with a mustard seed of faith (Matthew 17:20-21), which is all Jesus requires of us at the beginning of repentance. He then leads us through repentance safely to final saving faith in Him (where we believe the gospel, in the Chick tract I sent you, with all our heart).

I am currently building on the mustard seed of repentant faith I have been given by doing the following under His guidance:

  • fasting (this draws you closer to God as per Psalm 35:13)
  • praying the Psalms of repentance (Psalms 6, 32, 38, 51, 102, 130, 143)
  • seeking to live out Christ’s commandments from the heart in Matthew 5-7 and Luke 24:46-47 (also Matthew 28:18-20, where Christ commands us to make disciples). I am aware as I do this that it is Christ who is doing the work in me to build my repentant faith, I can do no more than listen to His voice in His Word (the Bible) and trust and obey. To increase my awareness of this, and overcome the temptation to give up fasting due to weakness (or to stand in my own non-existent righteousness), I keep repeating, “I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.” (Philippians 4:13). I am praying also for a soft, fully repentant heart to be developed in me ASAP (not knowing how long this will take as the Lord alone knows), that I may fully believe Jesus’ gospel and have repentant faith converted to saving faith.

Christ commands people in Revelation 3:19 to be “zealous” and repent. Being zealous means being willing to expend sincere, going-the-extra-mile effort when He moves your mind and conscience to act on His commandments. I believe you must strive to dedicate 100% of your heart to following Him as He leads (though He is merciful and makes us zealous in accordance with where we are at spiritually at the time He calls us), and He will encourage you greatly along the way. He does this because He loves you dearly and wants you to be in heaven with Him.

A word on fasting:

When you try a liquids-only fast (fruit/vegetable juice replacing meals, with as much water as you like in between) you will probably feel uncomfortable and hungry for the first 2-3 days. Interestingly, this passes as your body gets used to it and you will find you can fast indefinitely. Another sign of mercy from God, who had both Jesus and Moses fast supernaturally (no food or water for 40 days and 40 nights), sustaining them both by His power (see Exodus 34:28 and Matthew 4:1-2).

Fasting must be done with the right heart motive, to seek God with everything you have, including sacrificing your need for pleasant food to feed your flesh. If you feel lead to during the fast, you can convert a minor fast into a supernatural one.

I believe if someone is unsaved, as I am, fasting should be done until you know without a shadow of a doubt that you are saved (ie. you have the new heart and spirit promised in Ezekiel 11:19 and 36:26. You may never get another chance to repent and avoid hell. I believe with all my heart that if God commands us to seek Him with all our heart (100% of it, as per Jeremiah 29:13), He will protect and enable us while we fast for Him, for as long as is needed until we are saved.

More tips on Biblical fasting can be found here: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/fasting-in-the-bible-10-examples-to-learn-from/

A word on the truly born again or saved person:

I believe it is rare to meet a truly born again person with the true fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23) and the signs promised in Mark 16:17-20. The Lord confirms His Word with His character (fruits of the Spirit) and His power (he gives grace to the humble or genuinely repentant as per James 4:6-8).

I am not born again either but will cooperate by His grace with the Lord Jesus leading me to repentance. Then I can pray from an honest heart that was made repentant by Christ (Matthew 17:20-21), which is all Jesus requires of us at the beginning of repentance, to lead us through this safely to final saving faith in Him (where we believe the gospel, in the tract I sent you, with all our heart, converting our souls (Psalm 19:7, Isaiah 44:20)). Jesus will then give me the new heart and spirit promised in Ezekiel 11:19 and 36:26. Then begins a life-long process of sanctification or walking with the Lord more intimately, where we aim to be as close as possible to loving God with everything we’ve got and our neighbours as ourselves (Matthew 22:37-40) as “perfect love casteth out fear.” (1 John 4:18).

Please look into your Bible with an open mind and heart to confirm the truth of what I’m saying. For example, John 3:16 means to go to chapter 3 in the Book of John, then look up verse 16. It reads:
“For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

A word on the full gospel (as given in the Chick tract I have included here):

Repent and believe that Jesus took your just condemnation for your sins on the cross, that He died in place of you willingly for your sins. He did this out of obedient love to the Father, and also had a great and abiding love for those made in His image who were fallen due to sin, us. It is written that “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” (John 15:13). Jesus follows this up by emphasizing we are to have complete trust in His Words (and therefore complete obedience to them), particularly in the New Testament: “Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.”

All of the Bible’s Words are the Word of God, which is Jesus Himself, so all can be trusted completely and followed (John 1:1). Jesus communicates to us by His Word, via the Holy Spirit of Truth (2 Peter 1:21). The Spirit of Truth brings Jesus’ words to life to our mind, heart and soul, allowing us to feed on Him spiritually and stay humble and trusting (John 15:7, John 6:50-64). We need to feed on Him daily, and zealously, living out His Word as much as possible in our lives.

Jesus saves us from the just penalty of our sins which is hell then eternity in the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). If you are afraid at any time that you will die and go to hell, as I was recently, open up your Bible and go to the gospel of John 3:14-21. Read with an open mind and heart to Jesus’ Spirit of Truth, which works through His words. Ask Jesus of Nazareth to have mercy on you that you might confess and forsake your sins utterly before Him and others you have hurt (repent) and that He leads you to be born again as per John 3.

All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23-26) so all are under His just condemnation. No-one knows how long they have left to live, I want you to be delivered from hell and rest safely in Jesus.

I have been doing better lately, having received grace after grace while repenting. I must keep persevering in repentant faith until Jesus makes it saving faith, by His leading and grace alone.

Final word on having a repentant heart:

A fully repentant heart is the “good and honest” heart described in Luke 8:5-15. It is the ONLY good ground in which the “seed” (the Word of God, or Jesus’ gospel of salvation – see the Chick tract) may be sown. All other types of heart lead to false conversions (or no conversion at all), as I have had many times during my life. I want to save you the agony of going through a false conversion, where grace from the Lord gradually departs and you are left with the same hard, wicked old heart as described in Jeremiah 17:9. This heart will not get you Jesus and heaven but rather condemnation in hell and the lake of fire, as it is not a fully converted, born-again heart (Matthew 13:15, Isaiah 6:10, Acts 28:27).

I believe one of the most important passages in scripture is the following, as the heart is the gateway to the soul:

“Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.”
(Proverbs 4:23)

May the Lord Jesus bless you with salvation.

Naomi Chapman

No healing from demons – a fallen church in Noble Park

Last Sunday night I went with dear Christian friends to a healing church in Noble Park. Below is an email I sent one of my friends after the experience. I pray that you find this edifying too:

Dear (Friend),

Sorry, I sent the above in error without finishing the scripture references. Take two:

I came across an interesting article that I thought I’d share with you:

http://www.gotquestions.org/Toronto-blessing.html

Basically, my faith from what I’ve read in the Bible is that the Spirit of Truth leads us into all truth and testifies to us of Jesus of Nazareth, that people might be saved.
To testify of Jesus, He must use His words, as per the scriptures below:

“Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.”
(John 16:13)

“in whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise…”
(Ephesians 1:13)

“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.” (Matthew 24:35)

“Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.”
(Mark 8:38)

“If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.”
(John 15:7)

I believe what the article is saying is that a spiritual experience which is almost totally divorced from the Word of God is questionable and may be of the devil. How can we know if something is truly of God if we can’t see what is behind it? Yet we have His words to guide us as to His ordered, peaceful character and His mercy.
Hence the warning to “try the spirits” whether they be of God:

“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” (1 John 4)

Last night at the healing church the preacher prayed over everyone in the room to be healed, regardless of what their affliction was. I must testify truly that I was not delivered from demons, they continued to assault and harass me during the service. Yet I was open to being healed if the experience was truly from God. Did you notice virtually nothing of the word of God was preached? And that some people looked almost drunk during the service, shaking their heads around uncontrollably after they’d been prayed for? Also, I noticed some people said they continued to have pain in spite of being healed, then changed their minds and agreed with the pastor when he insisted that they must have been cured. At least one woman needed to be prayed over twice before healing could be given to all parts of her body that needed it. If this was truly from God, healing would have been done simply and without fanfare to all parts of her body that needed it, without her having to tell the preacher. The Holy Spirit of Truth would have worked through him and let him know what needed to be done.

My church as I’ve said before preaches the word of God mostly in truth but they are on the opposite end of the scale. They don’t believe that believers can lay hands on the sick or cast out demons, as Jesus promised we should be able to do in Mark 16, hence they have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof (2 Timothy 3:5). We are told to turn away from such people and not follow them as they may not be saved at all. Or, if they are saved, they have large areas of unbelief in their faith. Either situation is not good and of no help to someone who desperately needs deliverance and salvation, like me. I have been prayed for by my church and – again – no relief has been given me from demons and I know I am not yet saved. I am just being drawn ever more closely to Jesus of Nazareth by the Father so I continue to have great hope.

Having been prayed for by hundreds of people around the globe, with no deliverance from demons and no salvation (just a genuine repentance and drawing to God), I can testify that I truly believe the Lord when He said few people are truly born-again, so few stand on the Word of God in the power of the true Holy Spirit:

“Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, 24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.” (Luke 13:23-27)

Some food for thought. See you tonight at the board games meet up. I’m looking forward to it.🙂

God bless.
Naomi

How not to be saved and delivered – a lesson for all

Saving faith is more than just head knowledge, it’s what you believe right down to your spiritual DNA, in your heart and soul. As the Word of God says:

The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple.
(Psalm 19:7)

I have made this email trail public as I went to my church, Faith Baptist Church in Melbourne, in desperate spiritual need. I had (and still have) demons afflicting me day and night so needed deliverance and salvation. They were unable to do a thing despite allegedly praying for me, hence I believe their faith is dead and they are not to be followed at all.

I want to encourage you that if you yourself feel that you ARE NOT SAVED and DO NOT have a new heart and spirit, as promised in Ezekiel 11:19, 18:31, 36:26 then trust that you are right and God’s Spirit of Truth is leading you to repentance. When we are saved we should have the power of God to cast out demons simply, immediately, and without fanfare, heal the sick, raise the dead and survive drinking deadly poisons. Jesus promised that His word would be confirmed with signs following in Mark 16: if you cannot do this (just try sincerely, you will know if you cannot) then you are not saved. It’s just that plain and simple.

Now here is the email trail: I pray that this blesses you:

To pastor@faithbaptistchurch.org.au Jun 21 at 10:30 AM
Dear Pastor Frank & Miria,

Please pray for my salvation in Christ and my complete deliverance from the kingdom of Satan to the Kingdom of God. I have demons who harass me physically and in my mind 24×7 and I am unable to pray them away in Jesus’ name. They have been persecuting me severely for nearly 13 years, trying to destroy me. I do not believe I am saved as my own prayers for deliverance are not answered. I believe I have been greatly drawn to God in the past, and to His Son Jesus of Nazareth, but was never fully converted. I do not believe I have a new, born-again heart, I’m just fervent in spirit at times and I love the Lord’s Word and the Lord Himself dearly.

Please help me. I am spiritually really sick and desperate. I fear dying alone, without the Lord to protect me. I have always, when drawn to Christ, been like Apollos in Acts 18:24-26, fervent and repentant but not (I believe) fully saved by Jesus of Nazareth. He has given me grace always to know that this is the right path for me, that I will be saved and converted and healed.

Please pray for me to be saved, healed and given the grace to always have assurance of salvation and to serve Jesus of Nazareth fully always.

God bless you both. I hope you are well.

Naomi Chapman

Dear Naomi,

We are saddened to hear that you are going through these trials again.

A few things that might help you;
firstly salvation belongs to God – it is He alone who does the saving and it is not determined by what we think or do, neither is it based on God answering our prayers.
Simply because we have been praying for something for a long time and God does not answer does NOT mean we are not saved. Paul himself had a thorn in his side that God would not take away no matter how many times he prayed, and yet he did not equate this with being unsaved. We believe this is true of you too. Salvation is simply a gift that you believe and receive.

Secondly, if you really feel that you are unsaved then GET SAVED. Do it NOW – again it’s simple Accept His gift and BELIEVE it.

Thirdly, from the fruits you display we cannot understand why you would be as you put it in the “Kingdom of Satan”. Someone bound by Satan would be displaying quite horrific characteristics and would not be able to withstand staying around Christians as you so comfortably do. Your fruits bear witness of your salvation and in another sense so does your struggle.

As for Apollos he was not baptised properly and needed this explained to him however the Scripture does not say if he was not saved. You, Instead have been baptised correctly and are fervent about the truth which is explained to you well in our church.

We will be keeping you in prayer asking God to give you assurance.

Will also spend some time with you on Sunday praying.

God bless you

Pr Frank and Miria

To Frank Guglielmo Jun 25 at 2:29 PM
Hi Pastor Frank,

Thanks for your biblical encouragement and for saying you will pray for me on Sunday. I have never been free from demons since 2004, yet I have been given grace while suffering to bear up under the torment. This grace came from reading the Word of God and taking it to heart, applying it in my life as I knew it was the truth and to be followed.

Because my own prayers for deliverance in Jesus’ name have not been answered and other Christians have likewise not been able to pray them away or deliver me, I must face the truth. This is that in all likelihood I am not saved and they may not be either.
When a person is born again they have a new heart and spirit: this has never happened to me. I have been fervent for the truth, and loved Christ, while being greatly drawn to Him yet never fully converted. Always the grace I received while being drawn has departed, so I believe Christ has not chosen me yet for salvation.

I believe I will be saved and that salvation is God’s work alone, so I continue putting one foot in front of the other faith-wise and waiting for Him to bestow the new heart and spirit when I read the gospel.

It concerns me that many professing Christians out there are unable to deliver people from demons, however, as Paul himself was able to do this in the New Testament. In the last few days I have been all over the internet desperately trying to find someone who can deliver me in Jesus’ name. No-one so far (and many have prayed for me) has been able to. Here is the passage where Paul quite simply, and in faith, delivered a girl from a demonic spirit:

“And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.”
(Acts 16:18)

Likewise, Jesus Himself promised that all believers in Him would be able to have the power of God (including the power to cast out demons) in His name. He never put a time limit on this power hence all true believers in Him today, who have truly been born again, should be able to cast them out:
“And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”
(Mark 16:17-18)

Those are my thoughts and beliefs that I thought I would share with you. Thanks once again for your love and prayers.

God bless you.🙂
Naomi

Hi Pastor Frank and Miria,

I wanted to report back on what’s been happening with me spiritually since people have been praying for me to be delivered from demons and saved.

Basically, I have continued to be assaulted by demons 24×7, hearing their voices attacking me in my mind and also attacking my body and in my dreams. I am repentant genuinely but I am not saved as final saving faith can only come from God – I wait on Him while trying to keep my heart so it remains open to Him and receptive as it can be:

“Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.”
(Proverbs 4:23)

“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:”
(Ephesians 2:8)

I am saddened that no-one at Faith Baptist Church has been able to deliver me from demons at all. I have had no respite whatsoever since people prayed for me, which means there is a genuine problem with the faith these people have. They may not be saved either as God is merciful and would not allow someone who genuinely wanted to be saved (with all their heart) to suffer rejection. You preach the truth but have areas of unbelief concerning the power of God. Why do you pray that the doctors will be “given wisdom” instead of just laying hands on the sick and healing them, as Christ said we should be able to do in Mark 16? We should also be able to cast out demons in Jesus’ name as per Mark 16 and not die if we drink deadly things. No-one I have come across at Faith Baptist Church can do this, nor can anyone else I’ve desperately approached online and in a healing church at Noble Park. The church I went to at Noble Park was clearly demon influenced, as per the Toronto blessing and other devilish attacks that are being made on the church of Christ. I refused to accept being prayed over at all there as I did not want to be open to evil.

I won’t be back at Faith Baptist Church until I am saved genuinely by Jesus of Nazareth, the Word of God. You may not be saved either as you cannot deliver people from sickness or demons, as Christ could:

“And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.”

I wanted to say something too about my husband Luther, who has been prayed for by myself and the church for many years. In all this time he has become ever more hardened to the gospel, not drawn towards it. He persecutes my faith constantly, claiming it is mental illness and to be medicated away. I have had multiple forced admissions to psychiatric wards and have been given anti-psychotics in an attempt to destroy me as a person before I come to saving faith in Christ. I am suffering badly yet not cast away. I continue to hope in Christ’s mercy, that I will one day be saved and stay true to the Word of God by His power and grace alone.

May He (the Lord Jesus) bless you with salvation too.
Naomi

“having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
(2 Timothy 3:5)

But Most of All, Love

All little ones are precious to God – praying for Rae and Nugget to have a blessed time together as a family.

“Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.” (Psalm 127:3)

“But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.” (Luke 18:16)

Real as the Streets

a pink flower with the words but most of all love

Life is rough and we’ve all got some pretty gruesome experiences. Despite the inevitable storms, there are also rainbows. My rainbow comes in the form of a blue-eyed curly-haired bundle of joy.

My darling Nugget.

She wasn’t conceived in the most noble of ways. Nor was she born to the picture perfect family. But she is loved! If nothing else, she is very loved by everyone. Especially me!

That’s kind of a given, though… isn’t it? lol #motherhood

Since day one, Nugget has been making the world more pleasant with her adorable laughter. Her all-gums-cept-two-tiny-teeth smile that spreads across her chubby baby face at the slightest provocation.

It’s amazing the profound impact a single new life can have on people. How an itty bitty human can turn the world of her parents upside down and inside out. And for the better.

Motherhood comes with so many conflicting emotions, though.

Insecurity. Joy. Doubt. Determination. Fear.

But most of all, love❤

*Rae

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